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hozozco -

Hi

My wife and I are planning to study at PRCStudy (www.prcstudy.com) in January 2007. We have chosen
this school essentially because we haven't been able to find any other four-week courses at this
time of year and we can't change our holidays to another time.

Is anyone familiar with PRCStudy? Any comments on the teaching? Any alternatives.

Many thanks

:-)



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kudra -



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haven't been able to find any other four-week courses at this time of year

Oddly enough there is a school with url
http://www.1monthchinese.com

the member self-taught-mba
http://www. /member.php?u=4181

runs and/or owns the school. You can search for posts with his user name, or look at the school
site. I seem to remember the timing of courses is flexible. Haven't looked at it lately.

I have no financial relationship.










venture160 -

Again I reccomend the CET Beijing January term.

http://www.cetacademicprograms.com/www/docs/637




Quote:

The January Term in Beijing
Four-Week Intensive Program for Intermediate and Advanced Learners

Since 1992, CET has been proud to offer the January Term in Beijing for intermediate and advanced
students. Based at the Beijing Institute of Education, this four-week program is designed to make
maximum use of Beijing’s rich linguistic environment by combining intensive, rigorous language
classes with interactive tutorials and activities. Students are required to have studied three
semesters of college-level Chinese or the equivalent and to abide by a full-time language pledge
for the duration of the term. All students live with Chinese roommates, an arrangement that
enhances the linguistic integrity of a program that is ideal for those who plan to extend their
stay at one of CET's spring programs in Beijing, Hangzhou or Harbin.












hozozco -

Thanks for the replies so far, but...

The 1monthchinese school is a lot more expensive
(http://www.1monthchinese.com/Chinese...es_Dates.html). The fee for a month is around $US2449 and
while this does include accommodation and the tuition includes 2 hrs 1:1 tuition, it is just too
expensive for us. We are planning to stay in a hostel which, when combined with the $US550 for the
PRCStudy ($450 + $100 registration) is a lot cheaper. We would also like to write by hand and are
not so interested in learning how to use 'Palm Pilots'.

The CET Academic Programme looks interesting, but we are just starting to learn Mandarin and will
not have enough experience. At $4,490 (http://www.cetacademicprograms.com/www/docs/296) it is also
expensive.

I guess we are somewhat 'budget students'.

Still, many thanks and I'm hoping someone knows something about PRCStudy.

:-)










roddy -

There's already some info on here about PRCStudy, if you search - try both 'PRCStudy' and 'PRC
Study' - see here for example.










badr -

Like Roddy said, search around and you shall find more information.

I had two folks that went through their course join one of the bootcamps and they had mixed
feelings about it. One felt like they delivered everything they promised and was quite happy to
recommend them. The other one was very disappointed. They were not in the same class/group as far
as I remember.










hozozco -

Ahh the wonders of the search engine...

Actually I did use the search, but I was using the Google syntax of "PRC Study" which doesn't seem
to work. Using PRCStudy retrieves very few results, and PRC Study get's a lot of pointless hits
due to PRC being the acronym for 'People's Republic of China'.

But thanks for the pointers, it would seem that PRC Study is at least going to be there when we
turn up, after all from this distance and only reading over the internet they could have been in
the Philippines for all we knew.

I think at this stage we'll be giving them a go, I'll post back some time next year and give an
update. Meanwhile, if anyone finds this thread between now and January 2007, feel free to contact
me : hozozco@hotmail.com










self-taught-mba -



Quote:

Many thanks, but...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for the replies so far, but...

The 1monthchinese school is a lot more expensive
(http://www.1monthchinese.com/Chinese...es_Dates.html). The fee for a month is around $US2449 and
while this does include accommodation and the tuition includes 2 hrs 1:1 tuition, it is just too
expensive for us. We are planning to stay in a hostel which, when combined with the $US550 for the
PRCStudy ($450 + $100 registration) is a lot cheaper. We would also like to write by hand and are
not so interested in learning how to use 'Palm Pilots'.

The CET Academic Programme looks interesting, but we are just starting to learn Mandarin and will
not have enough experience. At $4,490 (http://www.cetacademicprograms.com/www/docs/296) it is also
expensive.

I guess we are somewhat 'budget students'.

Still, many thanks and I'm hoping someone knows something about PRCStudy.

You are comparing apples and oranges. The PRC course is the regular, whereas ours is intensive.
Difference of 4 hours versus 8+ a day. Besides being a tuition-only option versus a full-service
option including accommodation, equipment and software tours etc.

Your not there to "learn Palm Pilots" the Palm pilots are there to help you learn Chinese. Also
see this thread Using a PDA to learn Chinese

We don't teach writing outside of electives. It is not for everyone. I must say as a school
operator that there is no way I could have a quality class at that low price without raising the
class size to an unacceptable level or hiring severely underqualified teachers.

Just this weekend I met a girl who act as a language exchange partner for a language school and
was offered a to be hired as an "intern" where she would teach foreigners Chinese. She spoke
English fairly decently but she had no language training experience and her degree was computer
science. And the name of that school was . . .

If this is the kind of quality that is acceptable to you why not just come here and get a tutor? I
personally think getting a tutor is a hit or miss proposition but so is going to a lot of schools
here in China because that is what you might get anyway. . .

Anyway, you have to figure in what your time is worth also. If you don't maximize your results
while in China you'll pay much more trying to replicated it in America. Just a thought.

Anyway, our school wouldn't fit well for you if you want to write by hand. I suggest BLCU (which
will really forced the characters on you) or UIR (University of International Relations), a
university in beijing that accredits our school. They are small and honest and decently priced. (I
know for a fact that they hire only qualified teachers -for the kind of training that they do
anyway ). They won't be as strict about characters as BLCU but you'll still have an opportunity to
learn them.

Good luck..










hozozco -

Thanks for your advice...

Anyway, our school wouldn't fit well for you if you want to write by hand. - yes that's what I
thought.

The other schools you mention look interesting. However, as I stated in the original post, my wife
and I have our holidays in January. We can't change this, and so we have to go with what we can
get. Unfortunately niether the BLCU or UIR doesn't offer a 4 week course in January (please
correct me if I am wrong).

why not just come here and get a tutor? - we've got one here actually. There are heaps of Native
speakers studying the local university, however travelling to Beijing offers the opportunity for
intensive study surrounded by the language and culture.

you have to figure in what your time is worth also - very true. If we paid what your school
charges, we couldn't afford to come to China. I'm not saying your school charges too much or is
not good value, we just can't afford it.

you'll pay much more trying to replicated it in America - alas we are but poor Australian's!!

Perhaps next we plan our holidays we'll study at one of the other schools.

:-)










self-taught-mba -



Quote:

Unfortunately niether the BLCU or UIR doesn't offer a 4 week course in January (please correct me
if I am wrong).

UIR has a course:

Jan. 9 - Feb. 5, 2007

See link i posted for dates.



Quote:

If we paid what your school charges, we couldn't afford to come to China. I'm not saying your
school charges too much or is not good value, we just can't afford it.

Don't worry not offended. Just noting the difference between expensive and out of budget.(A BMW is
not expensive for the value, but out of my budget for sure ) For what we give, it is VERY
competitive per hour, but I know it is a lot of money. A lot of people pay Worldlink and others
the same for a far fewer contact hours. In the future we may offer fewer hours per day or a
steppped-down package for that reason. For now though I don't want to spread my focus out.

There are several small Korean run schools. They are cheap and character intensive/asian way of
teaching ie pass that exam. Maybe you can look into that. Hope this helps.

Good luck.












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